| Beware of McCain's Freedom-Destroying Dietary Supplement Regulatory Bill |
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| Written by Ann Shibler |
| Thursday, 11 February 2010 12:04 |
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All ingredients contained in each supplement would have to be disclosed at the time the company registers all of its “manufactured, packaged, held, distributed, labeled or licensed,” products with the FDA. An onerous burden would be placed on the shoulders of suppliers and retailers of dietary supplements, as they would have to “obtain written evidence” from the seller that the product is registered as required by law, and keep that documentation on file. Monetary penalties for non-compliance “may, in addition to other penalties imposed in this section, be fined not more than twice the gross profits or other proceeds derived from the manufacture, packaging, holding, distribution, labeling, or license of such dietary supplement.” Those are very broad dictates and most likely subject to even broader interpretation. The hypocritical contrast between the regulation of drugs that can kill and the proposed hyper-regulation for food products -- vitamins, minerals, herbs -- is as plain as the nose on everyone's face.
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Sen. McCain described his bill as a “no brainer.”
This bill certainly is supportive of the notion that John McStain is lacking a brain. It does appear that no rational consideration was given to the Constitution during the composition process. No thought was given to the need or the impact, either. No consideration was given to the ineptitude and corruption of the FDA. Perhaps the ONLY thing considered was the increase in bureaucratic control and meddling of dietary choice.
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John has lost all sense of good judgement. He needs to be replaced, period! We are not Europeans, we are Americans, and we can make decisions for ourselves. Guess this shows how much John is thinking like a mother worried about her children. WE ARE NOT YOUR CHILDREN JOHN!!! WE ARE ADULTS, WE CAN DECIDE. That is a no brainer.
And here we have
yet another intrusion by the out-of-control fedgov into the lives of the private citizens. What an outrage!!! You know what? I can think of a little dietary supplement that the "Honorable" Senator McCain and the entire FDA bureaucracy should take. It was a favorite of the Nazi high command to be chewed in cases of extreme danger or emergency.
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This is the problem with McCain....he says he's for liberty and smaller government and less regulation and then goes and does something like this...just as unconstitutional as anything the rest of them do....Most of the republicans are not any better than the democrats. They all think it is their lawful job to regulate our lives in every respect. Talk is cheap. Before you call someone a conservative, you better look at what they actually do. McCain is NOT a conservative and never will be. He might have had a conservative thought once or twice when he was in Hanoi Hilton. Now he's just a money sucking power hungry publicity hound like most of the rest of them. I can count on one hand the number of politicians in Washington who actually talk about and vote for killing programs, repealing laws, and reducing the actual size and power of federal government. So by all means, lets support Senator McCain in his efforts to remake the republican party in his image...NOT!!!!!! He's the poster child for why the republican party lost the election and doesn't stand for anything. We are going to have to take over the republican party so it stands for something again. We do that by supporting and electing candidates with the backbone to stand up for LIBERTY and the 10th Amendment and the rest of the Constitution. That means we, the voters, have to be willing to DO WITHOUT almost all the things the federal government does now. We have to man up and stand the ramparts of freedom or shut up and take more of the same crap that we're getting now. What's it gonna be??? Are we lovers of liberty and rugged individualism or dogs conditioned to drool at the offer of "federal" and "state" dollars???? What's it gonna be???? I think most people are dogs who growl for show but roll over and show their belly when the man offers them a snack treat....Prove me wrong people, what's it gonna be????????
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Dear Senator McCain,
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At the risk of sounding like a radical I would like to remind everyone what the mandate of the FDA is.
Sir
Johnny! With most every appearance you make and open your mouth, you prove to us, the American people, that you are completely out of touch with who we are and what we experience daily as "regular" or "normal" people. You have never lived as a typical American. You were born in Panama and raised as a military brat. After high school, you attended the Naval Academy and were commissioned into the Navy, became a POW (sorry), then were elected a senator after your release. Since then you have lived a priviledged live of relative luxury. You know NOTHING (or even care) about how we live and what we need. PLEASE do us a BIG favor and RETIRE NOW!!
Why John McCain Did Not Become President
Now I realize why God did not allow John McCain to become President. God cares about we, the people. A healthy dose of Obama has made me realize I am neither a Republican nor a Democrat. It seems both parties are out of touch with we, the people. You gotta watch 'em like a hawk, and vote your conscience. We the people for good reason are supposed to be the government, not our elected representatives. Something very strange seems to happen to them on their way to Washington. They seem to lose whatever scrap of good judgment they may have possessed before and instead become possessed by something abberant that is neither rational nor beneficial for we, the people....
U.N.'s Agenda?
Sen. McCain is advancing the WHO's CODEX plan to reduce the world's population. The destruction of our nutrition will cause the death of billions. Criminal beyond our understanding, the psychos running the world body seriously intend the destruction of billions of us so that the remaining smaller population can be more easily managed.
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The FDA, which is staffed by former big pharma employees, cares nothing for the people who pay their salaries. Their only mission in life is to allow the pharmaceutical companies to farm us like animals. They restrict our use of physicians and therapies that actually treat the causes of illness so that we will remain ill and be forced to rely on their useless and harmful chemical monstrosities. Valid, well done research showing the safety and effectiveness of so called "alternative" therapies (anything big pharma can't patent) are either ignored or ridiculed. Physicians go along with this out of laziness, ignorance, and/or fear of retribution if they stray from the officially sanctioned "standard of care" (always and only designed to benefit big pharma and not the patient). So now our own government not only strips us of the benefits of our labor through confiscatory taxes, legislates what we can think and say, interferes in the ability of parents to raise their children as they see fit, and in a thousand other ways robs us of the freedoms handed down to us by the Founders but also makes it possible for an industry to keep us chronically ill for financial gain. What a disgrace! Surely there is a special place in hell for people so heartless, greedy, and self serving. Shame, shame on John McCain and his partners in crime in the congress, the FDA, big pharma, and those of us who willingly put our necks in their yoke (people of Arizona: Are you listening?). McCain and those others who think nothing of stripping us of liberties must be voted out of office.
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When I was 54 years old I was near dead from heart and circulation problems under doctors supervision....! I started researching my own ailments and through
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You can bet John McCain sure wished he had some vitamins and herbs and supplements while he was imprisoned in Hanoi. Now, he of all people, wants to bring authautarian communist rules to America. Just another paid shill. You can also bet he has taken big campaign donations from big pharma. Doesn't McCain know Pharma manufactures their "stuff" in China. They delivered tainted Heperin to the VA hospitals. I'm 5th generation Navy/Marines Mr. McCain. Just spend all your time mowing the lawns at your 7 houses and America will be better off.
Publisher
Appalling! It is incredible to those of us who have anything to do with the weight loss industry as the obesity that stalks this land is a testament to how little the FDZ knows a or cares about the health of we, the people. years ago in order to allow the food industry to save money they approved high fructose corn syrup and it continues to be approved to this day. yet it adds pounds to people every month and is making everyone an obese blimp so the pharmaceutical industry can 'fix" us, or more likely kill us.
McCain the Bain to Liberty!
I am so furious, civil discourse has to be more purposely expressed. This effort by Mcliar is tantamount
McCain's insane on government regulation of dietary supplements
Where the hell was McCain when the US imported posonous pet food from China? Where was McCain when we imported poisoned baby food from guess where? China!. This guy was out of it when he ran for President and couldn't even muster a challenging question like 'where is your birth certificiate Obama' and now he wants to question a non problem, a non issue. Come on Hayworth. McCain has got to go.
CORPORATE SHILLS: Keep Your Hands Off My Vitamins
Byron Dorgan is co-sponsoring this bill with John Mccain... Is this the way a seemingly good guy like Dorgan wants to spend his waning days in the Senate??? With so many huge, life/death issues unresolved by the senate, why are these two men doing this now? The senate has turned into a circus of clowns shilling for the oligarchy. mccain and dorgan need to keep their hands off our vitamins. America, go access old news clips from the 1950's and 1960's and see what Americans looked like back them before the FDA allowed the food industry to foul our temples/bodies with garbage...Americans were trim and probably a lot healthier. A great deal of this country has morphed into rush limbaugh clones...globe-like/drug-addicted and unhealthy. The FDA and our congress failed us/sold us out. REPUBLICANS WANT SMALLER GOVERNMENT???...then stay out of our eating habits. Corporate shills have done nothing positive for us other than to destroy the middle class & set it up to be sick and fat so we could be pushed into the waiting arms of the rapacious pharma and insurance industries.
Enough already
As if the FDA has protected us from the money making drug companies that push thru their drugs. This is just another way for the drug companies to lock us into their grips by forcing us to use their products instead of allowing us to think and care for ourselves. I WANT TO TAKE MY OWN HEALTH CARE BACK. STOP FORCING ME TO USE WHAT YOU THINK IS BEST!
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Seems like every year someone tries to slip control of our suppliments over to the FDA so that soon we will vote the way of CODEX (if you don't know about that, google it) and all vitamins will be in control of doctors. Think of that--you want to buy some Vitamin C and you spend $100 to go to the doctor for a prescription.
Allies to stop the fake "safety" bills
McCain's DSSA (S 3002) is not the only fake "safety" bill that would nationalize food and supplement production. Also pending is S 510 the companion "food safety" bill. Check our analysis "Action eAlert: Food Dictatorship Thanks to Codex, Harkin and McCain…" - http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=4683
The FDA May Not Have a Perfect Record . . . but
One of the readers (AJ) posted this comment. "Many dietary supplements have been shown to have no positive health effects whatsoever, and some have even been shown to have negative effects, but because they are classified as "food" they are not subject to regulations that would otherwise require that they at least bear clearer labels describing their actual effects. The "natural supplement" industry is just another racket, getting consumers to spend their hard-earned money on snake oil when what we all really need is to be more active and to eat more vegetables and less red meat. Painting the government as "evil" and the natural supplement industry as somehow having consumers best interest at heart is just silly."
BlueSpringsMo
Dear John, Compromise is not currently a value that people are looking for in leadership. So, along with the TARP deception (that you fell for) now the federalization of herbals, one has to ask the question: how much did you compromise for with BIG Pharma? J.D. should hit this slow pitch out of the park!
Leave 'em ALONE John...
I certainly hope there will be an outcry as, yet another, attack on our free choice to take supplements if we desire. The FDA, which is in the corner of Big Pharma, not ours, would love nothing more than to shut down the natural supplement market. Soon we will only have the wonderful side-effects causing drugs that cost way more than they need to. It is time for John McCain to RETIRE!
Rev Mr.
The more John Mcain tries to improve his political image the more he unveils his true identity. Mcain is s washed up political figure, He went astray because of his inability to realize that he is not infalible.
You will not Defend the Constitution but you will protect us from Vitamins
Shame on you Mr. McCain!
McMoron
McCain is an irrelevant old RHINO fool who's ready for the scrap-heap of history along with all the other RHINO's like Dorgan who also supports this nonsense. McCain is the reason we now have Obama - now that's something he can really be proud of. If someone with a set of b*##s had run for office, we wouldn't be considering this kind of crap and Socialized medicine for the umteenth time. Vote all politicians out - no matter how "good" they have been for your location. That's real change. Our system wasn't meant for career politicians to take over and embed themselves in power
ProfessorFreudSpeaks
Ah ha, Senator McCain is raising Cain again.
Follow EU all the way
I think that if our illustrious Sen. J. Mcaine desire to follow the lead of the EU, he should also provide over the counter
Constitutional Amendment
Let's amend our constitution an put this issue, and a few others pertaining to medical freedom, to bed forever:
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Support JD Hayworth !! Contribute to his campaign and all Arizonans vote for him. McCain was just an opportunist who went to Arizona in search of power and money. He married budweiser booze money and got elected senator. The low quality of his daughter, Megan, is evidence of his lack of character.
Codex Alimentarius introduced by an Old Fool!
For those of you who don't know, google "codex alimentarius" This is the UN's Food Code so that they can control every aspect of our nutrition. McCain is a globalist stooge and I hardly think he knows what he has introduced. This is the primary mechanism of control that global government expects to wield over the slave class. It also fits nicely with their eugenics programs. The problem with the plan is that people are starting to wake up to the corrupt nature of the ruling class. What do you think will happen when Joe six-pack watches his kids go hungry? That's exactly what the globalists want. They are the enemy to freedom, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
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Who is he trying to kid? McCain is offering big pharma and big food a big wet sloppy kiss. Please Senator, if you don't want to take supplements then don't. Leave the rest of us alone. I have successfully navigated thru life for almost 64 years, I don't need any Washington hack to give me directions. We all buy supplements or not of our own free will. Back off, all of you!!!!!
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the federal government wants to regulate amino acids? the building blocks of life? what arrogance to believe they should regulate what is god given or naturally given(what ever your belief is), and put it in the hands of the FDA? what an idiot. does he not realize how many 100 of thousands of people this would put out of work? how many billions that would disappear from the economy? not to mention people who DONT believe in chemical solutions to natural problems. IDIOT! regulate Vitamin D? IDIOT!
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Think For Yourself has done no research on CODEX or he would not be supporting something he knows nothing about. Type CODEX in your search engine and youtube also. Do a little research and it will scare you! John McCain does not know what he is advocating. He needs to be put out to pasture before he does any more harm!
Another reason not to support McCain in the Primary
There is a question as to how effective these supplements/vitamins are - because many Americans seen to live quite well without taking a single vitamin/supplement. There is also a question as to how much harm they do as well. If someone wishes to spend their money on supplements, and it turns out that they are wasting money, that is their choice.
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now, what is the difference between mccain and the looney democrats? not much as written in this article...mccain drives me crazy...he's pretending to be a conservative as his re-election approaches, but ideas like this expose his true identity...haven't we had enough of government intrusion yet...he and obama are brothers from another mother!
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Good idea or bad idea, it does not matter if it doesn't pass what should be the FIRST test any proposed legislation faces: is it Constitutional?
Wan't to take Vitamins GO GET A PRECRIPTION from your DR. and then get RAPED by the Pharmacy. NO to GOVT Control.
The problem with this bill is the language is so vague it's a SLIPPERY SLOPE that leads to erosion of our rights; of YOU and I as consumers to determine if we want to take Nutritional Supplements. If this passes, it will only be short time before the FDA gets to Vitamins and anything classified as a Nutritional Supplement. How about Protein Poweders, Sports Drinks, you name it....the list goes on. ANd don't even get me started with Govt Mandated Health Care.... it will cost all of us big time. The FDA has been trying to do this for years.
McCain needs to retired in nov 2010
More socialist crap from a Rhino, Republican in name only. More government intervention to keep the drug companies in business and keep America addicted so McCain can collect more bribe money for he is a war hero dod't youi know. Screw him vote this bastard out in NOV 2010.
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This is a plan written by, and pushed by, the big international pharmacutical companies. They are the only ones with the monetary resources to meet the requirements that this bill would demand. That means the same big firms that spend millions to advertise their drugs 20 times a day on TV would now control the manufacturing and marketing of vitamins and other supplements. It also means this country would no longer control what goes into those vitamins and supplements and what would be available to the public. That would be now controlled by CODEX Alimentarius, a plan written by the UN. WHO (World Health Organization) Want to have to get a prescription from your doctor before you can buy vitamins? Think this sounds far fetched? Do some research on WHO CODEX Alimentarius. Senators have not read the 2000 page health reform bill and you can be sure they have not read this proposed bill either. On it's face it may sound good to some but read it, then make up your mind! I have, and John McCain needs to go!
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Yes it is also a “no brainer” that McCain is a closet Democrat -
Thanks prohibitionists!!!
McCain needs to be shot (or at least impeached) for presenting this kind of legislation. I would never have believed it if I wasn't seeing this now, but I had read some time ago that the "new world order" was going to try to illegalize VITAMINS (not just supplements, VITAMINS AND MINERALS IN FOOD)! To me this seemed ludicrous, as almost all foods have vitamins and minerals inherent in them. However this piece of legislation is clearly the next step toward the bland, flavorless, nutritionless kibble they intend to force-feed us!!! Like it or not prohibitionists, THIS IS YOUR FAULT!!! The prohibition of alcohol, and other drugs was the lynch-pin of this slippery slope leading to feeding people like house pets (while only the opulent ruling class will be allowed actual "food"). Let me know when you nits decide to wake up and fight this bs!!!
Bubblehead
This is the exact same thing that took place in England after the betrayal of Parliament to sign the Lisbon Treaty and join the EU. It put all natural remedy businesses out of business and imposed a restrictive and costly drug program as its replacement. This is progressivism at its worst. He must be removed immediately, along with his brethren.
Why McCain will be defeated in 2010
Juan McCain, the bottom rung of the RINO party, the phony who pushed for amnesty for illegals, the tool who got into the Naval Acadamy because "daddy" was an admiral. Who ranked 894/899 in his class, who has never held a private sector job going from the military to congress to the senate his entire life. Juan McCain who ran the worst campaign in the history of politics, who advocates endless "forever" wars, voted for the bank bailout when his constituents overwhelmingly (94%/6%) rejected the bill, who now says he didn't understand it, who produced a brain dead idiot offspring Meghan. Now that we got that cleared up he wants to regulate your right to self medicate? Ok so what's the problem?
For MeD & ludavince...
and...tell me the track record of the FDA's ability to regulate and keep harmful meds away from the people? i hear of meds with adverse affects everyday that carry the approval of the FDA...wow! so, what's the deal? and, to add insult to injury...the FDA will not allow a person with a terminal illness access to meds that are not approved by the FDA that may be helpful to that person...we need to have every right to make a decision for ourselves...not the FDA or any other government agency. what's happened to us? are we that weak and willing to give our rights away so easily? grow some common sense and refuse to be told what is best for you by some overgrown bully (FDA).
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McCain proves he's controlled by big business against the people, laws, and constitution.
Straight Talk Hawk
JUAN MCAMNESTY'S ILLEGAL ALIEN INVASION DESTROYED OUR MEDICAL SYSTEM! Oh yeah, the purple-faced rage advocate of amnesty for the 30+ MILLION illegal aliens (but no terrorists!) he, the neo-comm globalist Democrats,and the neo-con globalist Republicans allowed to invade our country in violation of Article IV, Section 4 of the Constitution is concerned about our health! Those illegals destroyed our hospitals, welfare, and medical systems, assaulted and killed American citizens, raped our women, formed MS-13 gangs to waste our cities and put our kids on drugs, and this sellout says he's worried that vitamins will hurt us! He and the other traitorous rats in the political parties now come to the taxpayer and say, "oh look, YOU have a healthcare problem" and try to send us the bill for their treason! Please, Arizona, let J.D. Hayworth do the work RINO McAmnesty won't do--preserve, protect, and defend our Constitution and our country.
Outrageous and unecessary!
We don't need any more legislation that takes away our God given right to take care of ourselves. We already have DSHE and GMP certifications. Welcome to the Nanny State. If you're in AZ, my apologies, but get this guy out of office!!! He's a RINO and he's TOXIC!
I talked to McCain myself about this bill
when he was leaving a radio station in Phoenix. Here are some direct quotes of thigs he said when no cameras were around. He said, "two people died because they didn't know what they were taking." TWO PEOPLE?!?!? Now the rest of us will suffer?!?!? I also questioned him about the logic of regulating food that I could grow in my own garden. He replied, "I don't want what you grow in your garden to hurt somebody." I felt really hollow after that conversation.
DON'T MESS WITH MY VITS!
For those of you who think that this criminal bill is about snake oil salesmen or the government wanting to "protect" us citizens from ourselves....get real. This IS Big Pharm trying to halt the citizenry from using healthful products that are,in fact, much more effective in preventing and curing many serious and debilitating diseases than many of the drugs and pharmaceuticals being shoved down the throats of guileless and unsuspecting patients.
Mr. Scottt
This is just more proof that our 'government' has completely sold out to big business, at the expense of our freedom, our health, our safety, and our very lives. McCain is a criminal and needs to be fired and taken to court and jailed for fraud, just like most of them!!! We need to vote these lying, cheating, self-serving scum, out office NOW!
FDA Approved Aspartame (Nutrasweet)
Oh yes, the FDA. Approved Aspartame (Nutrasweet, a nerve toxin, 92 registered complaints of serious symptoms and yet it is still on the market. Based upon my personal serious medical problems that stopped when I stopped drinking the poison, it is a slow killer. I cringe when I see anyone, especially a pregnant woman checking out at the market with a case of "diet" drinks. And, you can get fat on it too.
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Mr. McCain and his family never, ever, ever, took a vitamin? I've heard about this regulating vitamins for years now. Don't know why. Don't know why a vitamin would be such a huge threat to McCain. Looks like McCain would have been as BAD a president as President Obama. Makes me think that this tremendous show of fighting across the aisles is just for show. They're all in on it.
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I would rather take all-natural vitamins just to supplement my health, not buy into the snake-oil salesmen mentality. If you want to take the poison that your doctor writes prescriptions for, go ahead. There is no need to narrow our choices. I'm totally shocked that John McCain would do this favor for President Obama.
divas mom
With 4 members of my family having had gastric bypass surgery, it is mandatory to take multiple numbers of vitamin supplements everyday the rest of their lives. To have the federal government to be regulating and ultimately be raising prices on these necessary supplements just to create more authority over our lives, we should be calling what it is,... "money grabbing liberalism." John McCain needs to cease and desist as a conservative TODAY!!
Considering I can buy anabolic steroids disguised as supplements on amazon, I think this bill is necessary
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Hmmmm
Last time I checked, all the supplements (minus vitamins, etc) that promise chiseled abs, superior weight loss, and the other miracles all have "These results not evaluated by the FDA" on them which means they can say that the product does whatever they want to push. I'd like to see regulation on these items so the snake oil salesmen who promote everything under the sun to have to live up to their claims.
Are we idiots?
There are many ads on TV from class action lawyers, warning us about the deadly effects of FDA approved drugs. (Why would they do better with vitamins?) It blows my mind that an adult cannot research a vitamin and decide if he needs one, and which one to take. The Internet is full of sites for this and Amazon, and Barnes & Noble are jammed full of Health books! If you need the FDA to pick your vitamins then you should lose your right to vote, as you do not have the intellectual ability to evaluate alternatives and make a rational choice. The LAST thing we need is more gov! Dump McCain!
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John McCain is a RINO and new World order scumbag. He loves restricting US citizens rights while at the same time leaving our borders wide open to be invaded, and even offers the illegals AMNESTY. This guy is filth, plain and simple. I wonder how much campaign money or even bribes big pharma have given this traitor? AZ, PLEASE vote him out of office !!
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McCain will lose the election this time. He has turned his back on Arizonians. We had an issue with a corrupt member of DOJ and McCain's office said the Senator isn't interested in such issues. We'll now my family, extended family, friends and co-workers will not vote for him.
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Simple solution for all who are scared they'll be scammed by snakeoil vitamin salesmen, if you want to take fda approved vitamins then go to your doctor and get them, they are available you know. You may walk around crapping your pants all day but at least you'll know they have been fda approved and there safe!
You have a right to choose
Vinko:
Stupid Is as Studpid Does …
I voted for McCain inspite of the fact that he stated he did not believe that there were any American POWs still being held in SE Asia.
Follow the Money
Who benefits from this law? I would suspect the pharmaceutical companies do as this will at the very least increase the cost of all supplements and more likely eliminate the availability of many.
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David W Johnson:
prejudiced doctors and scientists
The problem with most doctors and scientists when it comes to herbs, natural medicine, vitamins, is that they don't know much about them nor are they interested. My doctor eulogizes his prescription drugs to me while noting a minor study on an herb that didn't work out well in a double blind test. I wonder to myself, if anyone in the test got better and how many people were in it and who conducted it? To be honest, the medical industry favors pharma and drugs even when herbs, German doctors use some herbs often, do the job and have fewer, if any side effects. For example, after my prostate operation, which didn't work, I had difficulties urinating. My specialist prescribed a drug which had severe side effects and didn't work. He essentially gave up on me. Then I found a cure for my swollen gland with a lowly herb -- saw palmetto. If I hadn't found it, I would have had to retire two years earlier, and I would have had to undergo another operation to remove the gland entirely. That is only one example. However, be it known that all people are different and require different amounts of vitamins and kinds of herbs for their individual cures. Doctors love to generalize and give everyone the same daily requirement, for example, vitamins. This is an absurd way of healing. Thus I feel Senator McCain is dead wrong on this issure, and we should stand for our basic rights of defending our own lives from diseases. Life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness? Where did those ideas go?
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You have got to be kidding me...vitamins & supplements? The FDA doesn't take drugs off the market if people die like say oh VIOXX where over 27,000 people died from using meanwhile they have no problem banning HERBAL supplements like Ma Huang (ephedra) because there were approximately 200 deaths. The FDA doesn't make money off supplements so here is way they can. Disgusting.
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Eastern medicine has been around for 2000+ years, Western medicine 200. Who do YOU trust.
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What is wrong with the Washington career politicians? All they can think about is what they can control and regulate. Don't they realize that the more controls and regulations they slap on goods and services, the higher they push the costs? Let's hear from some politicians who want to roll back controls and regulations for a start!
this is shocking
With everything going on you can now see the massive amount of control they want to have over American citizens. time to get out of this country. What a disgrace. The only reason they want to control it is because of $$. People realize you can help yourself with supplements and avoid bad pharm meds and dr prescriptions. They want control of everything. What is happening to this country? Everyday I Read the news and get more and more sick to my stomach.
McCain for Big Government
McCain professes to be a "conservative" (around election time) and for the life of me, I can't think of one conservative who would support this idiocy. He must be on the payroll of Big PHRMA. This little man does more damage to our country than any lefty Democrat. He's nothing but a Big Government RINO Progressive.
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This control was attempted about 25 years ago and was defeated, because people really got up in arms when they were informed.
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THIS IS ANOTHER REASON WHY WE ARE GETTING NOWHERE WITH PROSPECTIVE LEGISLATION SUCH AS THIS.READ OUR LIPS,NO GOVERNMENT INTRUSION.HEY JOHN,I'AM A BIG BOY.I KNOW WHAT I WANT TO CONSUME.AT LEAST LET ME HAVE WHAT I WANT.LET AMERICANS DECIDE IF THEY WANT A SUPPLEMENT OR NOT.WHY DO RINOs LIKE YOU NOT GET IT.WHY NOT JUST LEAVE WELL ENOUGH ALONE,SIT BACK IN YOUR HIGHCHAIR,AND LEAVE THE WELFARE OF AMERICANS TO PROFESSIONALS.
A Supplement to Republican Greed!
This illustrates yet another reason that I left the Republican party in the last election. This is just another Republican Yoga move under the advanced "bend over for big business" forms.
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I hope the donations he received from the pharmaceutical industry justified such a stupid and offensive move on McCain's part. I am ashamed to say that living in AZ, I have the worst senators in the U.S. We also have a terrible legislature. Help. We all need to start voting at the local level to stop the madness. (Cabby how can you vote in good conscience vote for J.D. Hayworth?)
McCain is as republican as Nancy Pelosi
Now you see the man's true colors.
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McCain is merely one of many symptoms. The disease is a government staffed by bureaucrats who have no interest in actually serving the people. Instead they merely wish to control us in accord with an agenda that has the removal of our individual liberty as its goal.
STOP MCCAIN FOR PASSING THIS AWFUL BILL - HE SHOULD WORK ON A BILL TO STOP OFF SHORING OUR JOBS!!
PLEASE VOTE OUT MCCAIN!!! I WISH HE BE VOTED OUT FOR GOOD!! I AM TIRED OF THIS MAN!! NEVER LIKED HIM HE IS SNAKE!! ONLY WANTS TO SCREW "WE THE PEOPLE" EVEN MORE WITH HIGHER COST -- I USE NATURAL VITAMINS ALL OF THE TIME AND USE LESS PHARMACEUTICAL DRUGS! HE MUST BE GETTING PAID OFF BY THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES. THIS DAM POLITICIANS NOTHING BUT SOBS THINK THEY KNOW BETTER THAN US
retire already
hey kucinich said all Americans over 62 should retire and make room for all the others out of work. i say all congress-persons 62 and older both in the house and the senate should retire -- and not be replaced at all. none of them are representing the people anyway. look at all the money we'd save because they wouldn't be there to spend it. look at all the freedom we'd save, free of their idiot ideas. we're better off on our own with NO representation than with this crap. McCain -- go away! and take your scary little daughter with you. let her and your wife keep the tape on their mouths, though, that was kind of an improvement...they should actually use some of it on you.
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Um, clearly not one, to the person, of the people responding to this information has any experience with the FDA or the pharmaceutical industry. U.S. pharmaceuticals are the safest in the world and the FDA is the gold standard for regulation. To the collective idiots leaving their ignorant comments -- do you understand that there is no regulation?????? None. How stupid are you people? To translate, all of these dietary supplement companies can continue to manufacture in a non-regulated environment without answering to anyone -- yet millions of people consume their product without any assurance of safety, efficacy, quality, etc. Good lord people, do some research before ye speak...
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To the poor little afraid weak minded little American who trusts the FDA incompetants to hold your trembling little hands, who now has more to worry about than a code orange warning from Homeland Security, which makes you to tremble and sweat all the more, even though you have nothing substantive that you can do to return it to a pleasant green! Have a nice cold glass of chinese milk with a melamine chaser, (something the FDA initially missed), and pull up a chair and listen. We true Americans do not wish to sacrifice our liberties which were paid for in blood by fearless patriots for the illusion of security, whether promulgated by the TSA, HS, FDA or any other itineration that uses the promise of security for the collective, to foster suppression of individual free will.
right idea wrong step
To be honest, I am more of a libertarian then democrat or republican and I voted for McCain. I am not appalled by this idea as many others are. I have not read the bill but I am assuming it is more geared towards the bad supplements or 'scam' supplements and I view this as more of a consumer protection act than more of an infringement of our freedom. I buy supplements because I am interested to see what the effects are, and I think with the help of peer reviews that the supplement industry has created its own self-monitoring system, but it still bugs me every time I see an extenze commercial on TV or when I see testosterone products that do nothing that people spend $100's of dollars on every year. I think this is what that bill is geared towards - making it so false advertising doesn't sucker in billions of dollars. If you want to spend your money on products that don't work (keep in mind placebo is a great one that works), then I see why you are against this bill. I don't think it will cause the 'banning of supplements' like others have said but will provide some guidelines for regulation. Keep in mind, I am with the majority here in that I don't want government in my life, but think about all of the people that have no idea what they are doing feeding money into products that don't work. I know I have spent $100's on some of these by the advertising claims and my own greed to help me believe they work. The problem with supplements is there are too many claims with not enough supporting information. I just think that this may be the right idea towards starting to at least set a bar where supplements can enter the industry but at the same time to create something this big this soon I can see where people will get frustrated with this. I would rather know what I am buying will work is why I agree with this.
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This bill is a great idea and doesn't hurt your freedom at all. Vitamins will still be available over the counter like buying Tylenol. The trouble with supplements and why they need to be regulated is if your bottle says it contains 100mg of Vitamin C or whatever, no one has ever checked first, if it is really 100mg or even Vitamin C, it could be anything. Most people are just ripped off. They supplement industry can do whatever they want. I have read read studies and found that in ginko bilboa pills, which can be dangerous, even pills in the same bottle were very different. People die all the time from supplements. It just doesn't make the news and is way underreported. Basically the vitamin industry has a lot of people getting ripped off, because some brands of vitamins are not what they say and people are getting ripped off. No prescription necessary, just honesty and quality from the companies. But most of you also probably believe Kevin Trudeau and even buy his ridiculous books, so good luck with that
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John,
If McCain only had a brain
Can we send him back to Hanoi? I and two of my sons struggled with M.R.S.A. for over a year and all the doctors could do was prescribe more antibiotics. It would clear up as long as we took antibiotics but it kept coming back. Then I read Kevin Trudeau's book "Natural Cures They Don't tell You About" We started eating organic food, cut out milk and sugar and refined foods and took supplements. The M.R.S.A. went away immediately and that was five years ago. Now this knucklehead wants to place vitamins and supplements under the control of the government? I pray he doesn't get his way.
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Let me say first everybody knows how much of a RINO John McCain is however I have read through these comments and could'nt help to ask myself what is so bad about trying to make sure that these supplements people take are safe?There are alot of supplemts being sold that have no scientific evidence to back up the claims they make about said supplement.Sometimes being partison towards a known RINO republican can blind out common sense.
Vitamins and supplements are a scam
I support this. There is no evidence that most vitamins and supplements do any good to anyone. While the FDA sometimes goes to far (as in their actions against Vioxx and Zelnorm) supplements give people false hope and bilk the credulous of their money. I would like especially to see homepathic remedies removed from the US market.
Mr, Psychic
Another wretching power grab by a dumb out of control bureaucrap.
CODEX and Hayworth
Too bad Hayworth is the only apparent option to McShame. Hayworth, is a died-in-the-wool Republican. And anyone with half a brain knows that there is NO DIFFERENCE between repubs and dems (regardless of what Bill Bennett tells you). We need true Constitutionalists in the halls of govt. Sadly, as always, we must take the lesser of two evils. Hayworth gets my vote even though I believe he's a neo-con shrill with (sing it) "high hopes" (i.e. delusions of grandeur in my opinion).
where are the liberal pro choice types?
we are standing right beside you guys on this one... we might not agree on everything, but guess what, we agree here. This bill is a crime and needs to be stopped, just like the original DSHEA bill and the Anti Steroid bills of the 90s among others...
Going, Going, Gone!
In days past, farmers would grow herbs and make concoctions to help them after a long sluggish winter. These recipes would get their blood and systems in order to work for spring planting. Why on earth do We The People allow these idiot politicians to enact legislation to intrude on common sense! One reason is that big pharma does not profit from nature. Even the American Cancer Society has become nothing but a shill for big pharma, who does not want cures, just profit for drugs. The American Cancer Society, American Lung Association and American Heart Association all shared a $99,000,000 grant from RWJF, administered by the AMA. The ACS gets from RWJF (As of last on-line financial report, RWJF owned 42,343,491 shares of J&J stock). The more J&J's stocks increase, the more money and power RWJF has, the more "studies" they fund, the more "advocacies" they create, the more laws they get created to sell more of their products. It keeps going. They also get tens of millions of dollars in grants from the Federal Government, which they then turn around and use their 501(c)(4) (ASC CAN) to lobby the government for more money, for increased taxes against consumers and for laws which drive the need for more J&J over-the-counter products. Johnson & Johnson is in the position of knowing what laws will be passed with RWJF funding to push for laws and government payment for their products, and use their profit against our freedom. The ACS needs to get back to "finding a cure in our lifetime", instead of the wasting the donations they have. According to their 2008 Consolidated Division 990s, they spent $390,305,361 on salaries, pensions, benefits and payroll taxes while spending a mere $4,406,038 on research. They spent more than 4 TIMES the research amount attending conferences ($18,158,259).
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This is so wrong. My 92 year old father told me this was coming last year and I didn't believe him. He's been taking supplements for fifty years and it's been about that long since he's even visited a doctor. He is on no kind of medication whatsoever. He told me if he couldn't get his whole food supplements it would be his death sentence. My father isn't even on Medicare. He declined it about 20 years ago. I've sent a message to McCain that he needs to drop this like a hot potato. AMERICANS HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHAT THEY DO AND DO NOT TAKE IN REFERENCE TO VITAMINS OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS LEGAL. You see, big Pharma has been salivating over this for years....they would like nothing more than to have the vitamin industry in THEIR HANDS. Makes me wonder who McCain is pandering to, right? I voted for him the last election but this just makes me sick. Send John McCain a message on his website. http://www.johnmccain.com/issu...-thoughts/
What a Joke McCain Is (and has been)
John McCain is George Orwell's version of a patriot. This country has become BS, and he's one of the reasons why. Follow the money. McCain is facing a tough Senate race and needs campaign cash. No doubt big pharma is behind the push to regulate vitamins and supplements because they'll handle the manufacturing, marketing and profiteering. If McCain promises Big Pharma that he'll do what he can to send this multi-billion dollar business their way, he'll be awash in campaign cash. John McCain -- just another cheap politician and what's wrong with America.
The Progressive John erupts again
Hey, Senator McCain, I can read labels perfectly on my own. Stay as far away from my health as you can. You progressives can't seem to help trying to regulating our lives. The only difference between you and the "big government" type you ran against is that you just happened to have an "R" in front of your name.
FDA is not prefect, but is better than the wasted money of untested, unsafe, natural cures.
I trust the real medicine because it has been double-blind tested; I distrust the many vitamins and holistic cures that have not been tested. Scientifically tested medicine will have an effect upon the body. Supposed holistic cure-alls with no side effects probably cures supposed illnesses. A physics professor I know once asked me if any prescription or natural medication that had no side effects could have any effect at all? The logical answer he was implying was of course, no.
No need for this legislation
There are several things people here are missing. First, we don't even NEED this legislation. We can form an organization like Underwriters Laboratory, that can rate supplements. They can give a stamp of approval to those that are what they claim to be, back up their claims about efficacy with medical papers (yes, there are lots of those), and aren't adulterated with things like magnesium stearate. Such an organization would do far, far better than the FDA, which has sold us down the river time and time again. The FDA is completely corrupt. It has allowed monosodium glutimate and artificial sweeteners (toxic poisons) in our food, many different chemicals like preservatives, genetically modified "foods" (WITHOUT a label), growth hormones in our milk and meat, toxic pharmaceuticals (which are sold to brainwashed doctors), and who knows what all else.
Congress is Broken/ Health Care Wrangling Proves It
We INDEPENDENTs are tired of POLITICAL fighting over Health Care and McCain's bill is just another proof that CONGRESS IS BROKEN and WE THE PEOPLE need to fix it so WE say :
mcCain
Johm McCain, is a compromised politician, remember the video of him drunk singing bomb bomb Iran you can find it on you tube. when he was captive in Vietnam they did some serious brainwashing sessions on him he is a Manchurian candidate. mccain and joe LIEberman are the 2 bigest whores in DC.
Ron Paul and supplements
What is a supplement? Do they include choline, inositol, and quercetin?
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If JD Hayworth takes our side and can make this a big defining issue then he's getting campaign funding from me. Nutritional supplements of my own choice has in no uncertain terms saved my life and in like kind has saved the life of many people that I know (relatives, friends, and acquintances) as well as improved greatly well being both physically and cognitively. Life would had been quite horrible without them and substituted with Big Pharma solutions. In fact I am very sure that if I didn't have access to supplements like I do, that I wouldn't be on this Earth to type this message. Asa well as scores of other people of which that I am familiar.
Izzy
Think about it. The McCains wealth is from alcoholic beverages that kills, maims and destroys American Families every hour. Now he wants to take away the access of life prolonging and helpful vitamins and supplements so we have to rely on drugs with far reaching side effect that can be deadly. One more attempt to control American's Freedom. Helloooo!
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Izzy Larrain is correct: The McCains have made billions selling alcohol, now McCain wants OUR choices to use supplements controlled? One supplement that helps the liver is Milk Thistle (PROVEN) for all those alcoholics buying McCain supplied alcohol. A tad hypocritical wouldn't you say?
self
Vote this "trojan horse" out. He was installed to be the loser and let the 140 day senator to become president. He never hit Obama's weaknesses, citing a "clean campaign". So now we have a questionable citizen who may not be eligible to be president. The real president is the teleprompter controllers and the media owners.
That's Not All That The Government Is After.....
Our government has run amok as well as afoul!
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They already regulate are food supply, the top lobbyist for Monsato is leading the FDA, what a scam. They won't stop until were all brain dead. The FDA along with big pharmica creates disease. We now have flesh eating bacteria[man made], acid reflux disease[man made], every child now has attention deficit disorder[man made], obesity[man made], type 2 diabetes out of control[man made], fda approved drugs causing: cancer, liver disease, kidney and heart failure etc. We have altzeimers[man made].
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This "story" is an embarrassment, as are most of the people leaving comments. Without oversight and regulation, these providers of dietary supplements have been able to circumvent rules that apply to legitimate medicines, allowing them to promise results that are absolutely ridiculous. They're profiting off of the desperate and gullible. Only someone hopelessly deranged would oppose bringing them under some sort of regulation, but the lunatic wing of the Republican Party unfortunately fits that bill. They hate John McCain with a blinding passion that has absolutely nothing to do with the man's integrity or his public service, but merely the fact that Senator McCain actually does what he thinks best instead of always checking with talk radio first. I have been a Republican all my life, but most of those commenting on this story are Libertarians who simply pretend to be part of the GOP in order to use its money and influence. They should find some courage, get the hell out of the Republican party, and try to win something as Libertarians.
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I don't think they're trying to restrict your access to your daily Centrum Silver and iron pills, I'm pretty sure this is aimed at the dietary supplements you see on late-night infomercials. You know, the ones claiming that they'll make you lose 10 pounds in 10 days or make your c*ck 12 inches long. Right now these companies can put whatever they want in a pill and tell you anything to sell it, and they don't have to back up their claims.
Sarah needs to DUMP all McCain support!
We don't need this Progressive!
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J.D. Bolick:
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I think there is only one drug that actually ever helped your body overcome disease and that would be anti-biotics. Unfortunately because of overuse most likely caused by doctors being afraid of being sued if they did not prescribe them. We now a bacteria that is basically resistant to all known anti-biotic,if you get one of these bacteria and you know there is no hope as the MD's will tell you, are you going to try every possible method to try and cure yourself or loved ones?
McCain is just another big government statist
McCain is just another bought and paid for congresswhore.
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I know at least 3 people with cancer that were told to go home by the hospitals and prepare for the inevitable, we have done all we could. We cut, burned and chemo'd but the cancer is still there. These people are now cancer free for 10yrs+ using alternative therapies including vitamins and herbs. I still want this choice if it comes down to it.
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Here is a perfect example of the corrupt FDA:
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Unfortunately Americans need vitamins because our food supply has been destroyed thru mass farming techniques pestisides/herbicides/fertilizers, gmo's, antibiotic/hormone meat, high fructose corn syrup, processed foods. We have high infertility in men, men with breasts, 5yr old girls with breasts, obese kids, rampant type 2 diabetes in kids, altzeimers, cancers. If modern health care/drugs is so great why the increase in all the diseases?
More Government More Corruption
This is just big Pharma, and their NAZIS thugs otherwise known as the FDA screwing the citizens of this country. With the internet spewing out tons of information about how diet and vitamin supplement can cure many of ailments that people suffer, including cancer, these SOB's need to stop the very things that are cutting into their profit margins. It is amazing how the Medical field used to actually cure things. With all the breakthroughs in technology in the past 30 years it stuns me how after trillions of dollars nothing has been cured. Why is that you may ask? The AMA, FDA, and Big Pharma have all realized there are no profits in curing anything. They just want to treat chronic illnesses, that way there is a continuos billing cycle, until the bank account or the insurance runs out. Imagine all the people that would be suddenly out of work if they actually released the cure for cancer.
McCain Sleeps with the Lobbyist
It is so obvious that John McCain is bought off by the lobbyist. He wants to clamp down on healthy vitamins but turns the other way when it comes to Monsanto's GMO corn that studies show causes organ failure. No, it's full steam ahead for GMO products by Monsanto.
Government needs some fundemental CHANGE not this lame barrack change
Why is so that a few people have reign over the lives ~300 million people. You mean to tell me 535 people know what the desire of each individual person is. Even farmers herding sheep wouldn't be so arrogant. Something needs to change about that. Why do we stand for 535 people telling us what to do? To hell with them.
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This article is a clever misdirection. How can you tell? Change one fact extrinsic to the bill itself: assume for sake of argument that the FDA is a perfect, well-oiled machine. What happens? Every argument in this article falls apart. Thus you can see that the problem is NOT with Senator McCain or the bill, but with the FDA. The author SHOULD be campaigning to reform the FDA... however, he is not. Interesting, no?
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People talk about the vitamin scams out there, yes there are.
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You people should realize that a company could throw ANYTHING into your vitamins/supplements---without some sort of agency to oversee the manufacturing process, I would not take any of them. Pretty stupid to think that YOU want to control your own health, when you really don't know much about it.
Supplements
If you read pubmed at all, or actually look into the benefits of using a supplement, you'll see that 1000mg of vitamin c increases your risk of kidney stones. Nobody needs that much vitamin c at once. The weight loss drugs? Most of them are bunk and the idiots that want supplements pay for them for an easy fix rather than walking and dieting. The guy at the GNC counter, a "supplement expert" with his associates degree in general studies knows as much about supplements as the company that produces them wants him to know. Speak with your pharmacist about what you really need and what is a waste of time.
We Need To Stand Up!
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