I do not doubt Mr. Tice's statements. What I do doubt are the motives of MSNBC, and the naive belief (by both Tice and MSNBC) that the Obama administration is going to make any relevant changes in the situation. In the past Bush put a spin on the news and the mass media jumped on him for that. Now Obama will put a slightly different spin on it all and the mass media will get the "all warm and fuzzy feeling". All the while, the constitutional rights of Americans are being violated.

That was back in 2005 which for computers these days in our hi-tech world is over a generation old that NSA removed Russel's security clearance, saying it had psychological concerns. He was later sacked. When asked about his dismissal, Tice told ABC."That's...it's the way the NSA deals with trouble makers and whistleblowers." He isn't the only rebel to speak out publicly one such later that year in December Intelligence Judge James Robertson resigned as a protest to domestic spying. The Ministry Of Propaganda peddles the same bogus garbage i.e. we can't find Osama when they fishnet chatter and use artificial intelligence to pluck 'targets of interest'. That's obviously using the grid but don't think for once they need the tech when theres low-tech solutions or methods that are innate or attained at anyones disposal. ECHELON And Friends will continue to use as Tice and others called it 'black world' programmes and operations, keeping us in 'total surveilance' under the trance~formation of following administrations. All the while ECHELON And Friends declare 'jihad' on our privacy they don't forget the luxury of endangering our rights leaving us constitution casualties. Understanding that simply means ECHELON And Friends is a double agent serving for itself and the likes of it's Big Brother NWO.