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Written by Ann Shibler   
Monday, 16 March 2009 08:35

Either ex-president Bill Clinton is staggeringly ignorant or brilliantly obscure when speaking of embryonic stem cells, because he doesn’t seem to understand the definition of “embryo.” But neither, apparently, does Dr. Sanjay Gupta, first pick of President Obama for Surgeon General.

In an interview conducted by Gupta for “Larry King Live,” the ex-president was allowed to push for universal health care. At one point in the interview the conversation turned to embryonic stem cell research. Six times Clinton used “fertilized” which he then went on to define “as bringing a life into being.” But when he used “embryo,” it was with a different definition in mind:


Gupta: Let’s talk about something you talked a lot about in the early part of your presidency, stem cells. There was an order today providing federal money for embryonic stem cell research. First of all, let me just ask you, as someone who studied this, is this going to always be as divisive an issue as it is now? Is this going to be the abortion of the next generation? Or are people going to come around?

Clinton: I think - the answer is I think that we’ll work it through. If - particularly if it’s done right. If it’s obvious that we’re not taking embryos that can - that under any conceivable scenario would be used for a process that would allow them to be fertilized and become little babies, and I think if it’s obvious that we’re not talking about some science fiction cloning of human beings, then I think the American people will support this....

Gupta: Any reservations?

Clinton:
I don’t know that I have any reservations, but I was - he has apparently decided to leave to the relevant professional committees the definition of which frozen embryos are basically going to be discarded, because they’re not going to be fertilized. I believe the American people believe it’s a pro-life decision to use an embryo that’s frozen and never going to be fertilized for embryonic stem cell research…. But those committees need to be really careful to make sure if they don’t want a big storm to be stirred up here, that any of the embryos that are used clearly have been placed beyond the pale of being fertilized before their use. There are a large number of embryos that we know are never going to be fertilized, where the people who are in control of them have made that clear. The research ought to be confined to those….

But there are values involved that we all ought to feel free to discuss in all scientific research. And that is the one thing that I think these committees need to make it clear that they’re not going to fool with any embryos where there’s any possibility, even if it’s somewhat remote, that they could be fertilized and become human beings. [Bold emphasis ours]

Well, Mr. President, I assure you, embryos already are little babies, the egg having been fertilized. By definition then, you are against embryonic stem cell research, (ESCR).

Gupta’s failure to correct such a gigantic error could be understood if he didn’t want to embarrass the president on national TV. However, Gupta appeared on “Anderson Cooper” directly after the Clinton interview where he replayed a section of the tape featuring Clinton erroneously defining embryos as unfertilized eggs, and STILL he let it go.

Is this an attempt by Clinton to moderate his past stance on stem cell research’s use of embryos? Or is it a gargantuan attempt by the embryonic stem-cell research pushers to deliberately muddy the waters by changing the terminology?

This new verbal strategy could purposefully be redefining fertilization to mean implantation, thereby making defense of experimentation and research that includes the massive destruction of embryos — human life — far more acceptable to the American public. Is Clinton making embryonic destruction more palatable to the American public because it is now coming from a more mature and trusted elder statesmen, as surely Clinton fashions himself to be?

If the ongoing bailout swindle can be made palatable and acceptable to the American public without as much as a squawk of protest, certainly redefining terminology can have the same effect on the stem cell research debate.

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danwhitehead1 said:

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Bubkle your seat belts
Because Nazi Germany, here we come!!
 
March 16, 2009
Votes: +3

danwhitehead1 said:

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In addition
I find that I must constantly remind myself that these people, loathsome swine that they are, are not the real problem. They are merely the visible putrefaction that has spread as a direct result of the underlying spiritaul death.
 
March 16, 2009
Votes: +2

archtoplee said:

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"The debate is over"
Just as in the Global Warming theory the "debate is over" the redefiners of the English language and of logic itself run shamelessly and unimpeded right under the noses of the mass media.

According to the redefiners of the English language, (Clinton's meaning of what 'is' is"?),and of human biology, embryos are not fertilized until the redefiners say they are.
 
March 16, 2009
Votes: +3

SCHNORCHEL said:

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Clinton, the traitor
We must remember Bill Clinton, Rhodes Scholar, member of the Council on Foreign Relations and of the Trilateral Commission and former President of the United States. He was a man who was publicly known as having committed fellatio with Monica Lewinsky in the White House.

Clinton was impeached for that, but he was not impeached for the treason of sending Bernard Schwartz of Loral Co. to Communist China to solve the problems in the guidance system of their Long March intercontinental ballistic missile.

Could Clinton be the Devil Incarnate?
 
March 17, 2009
Votes: +1

MarkGlen said:

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Abortion on demand
Hitler was for abortion on demand and he did the demanding. Abortion is population control.
 
March 17, 2009 | url
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danwhitehead1 said:

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Clinton as the devil?
I don't think he's intelligent enough. Remember, the Bible states that Satan, formerly Lucifer, was the most beautiful, intellignet and powerful of all the creatures that the Lord created 'til iniquity was found in him and he was cast down by the same Lord who created him. Clinton is nothing more than common trash scum puttin' on airs.
 
March 18, 2009
Votes: +0

Pat Henry said:

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Liar and Murderer from the beginning
Lies and murder go together, so this is fitting. It emanates from the same angelic adversary and accuser that became demonic by his pride of self.

Abortion, bottom line, is the Moabite strategy for pushing back Christian influence on the culture - see 2 Kings 3:27, and think on this. It will be defeated only by a "Davidic" strategy (2 Samuel 8.2), but that time has arrived.

This is why "abortion" (child murder, offered as sacrifice by some) is not and "issue," much less merely a "political issue." It is also why victory is certain, as we go in the right spirit to reestablish justice in the gates of our cities.
 
March 19, 2009
Votes: +2

Thomas Paine said:

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Clinton is a Pig
Clinton is a Pig, what else can I say.
 
March 20, 2009
Votes: +1

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